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Post by Ace on Jun 27, 2006 23:37:50 GMT -5
Since the board was accidently deleted I've had to look to Google. Luckily July 2005- May 2006 of this topic was all on one cached board. I couldn't find anything dated after that though I'm not sure much was added to this topic. Sorry for the mess . =================================== From Pierce Brosnan.comJuly 12, 2005 Irish DreamTime is in full swing with two projects at the moment. The first is a thriller called Butterfly on a Wheel, which I would very much like to make in San Francisco after the summer. We have been working on this script for months, and we all feel it has great potential. =============================================== Sounds like the film he was talking about when in India. =============================================== Post by Ace on Jul 13, 2005, 3:11amThe title is from the famous Alexander Pope (1688-1744) quote: Who breaks a butterfly on a wheel? ================================================ Post by templer on Jul 13, 2005, 4:15amCan't wait for more info on this project.I like the title very much. What has happen to his other project like TCA2 and Lochinvar? ================================================ Post by sparklingblue on Jul 13, 2005, 4:31amHe is talking about a movie falling apart, so probably he was referring to Lochinvar. He told Sue Barker in London that TCA2 was still on the agenda. I'm very curious about these new projects! ================================================== Post by Ace on Jul 13, 2005, 9:08amAs for a movie falling apart, it could have been Lochinvar (especially with how current historical epics have fared at the US box office) or it could have been Mexicali falling apart last year (with the MGM/Sony merger). Or it could have been Blood & Champagne (I really would love to see him do this film) or any numerous others. That's business as usual in Hollywood. Ace ======================================================= Post by Yuliya on Jul 13, 2005, 10:29amUntil Ace quoted the source, I envisioned a much nicer picture - a butterfly that breaks her flight to take rest on a wheel - a steering wheel - of a bike, perhaps... Ahem... Ignorance is bliss. :-/Re: Butterfly on a Wheel ======================================================== Post by Ace on Jul 13, 2005, 10:46amEr, that would have been a very thrilling thriller, no doubt. Ace ============================================== Post by Yuliya on Jul 13, 2005, 10:55amBreaking a butterfly upon a wheel would make a rather gruesome one, more like a horror movie, and certainly more graphic than the most of us would like to see, especially if "butterfly" was not used literally. Besides, my imagination runs its own course, esepcially when visual images are concerned; maybe I merely was in a romantic mood. ======================================================== Post by Ace on Jul 13, 2005, 11:17amIt's a phrase that's come to mean using excessive means or force. I did a quick google search and found there's also a song that uses the title. Ace ======================================================== Post by Yuliya on Jul 13, 2005, 11:35amI didn't know about the song, but it doesn't matter. The meaning of the phrase has nothing to do with my mental images; it's the origin that changed the pretty picture into something more gruesome. I'm looking forward to the movie nevertheless, of course. ======================================================== Post by peter on Oct 12, 2005, 4:49amJust got some update what this movie is all about from Premier magazine. "On the docket is Butterfly on a Wheel, a thriller about a couple who are kidnapped by a maniacal stranger (played by Brosnan), which he hopes to shoot in San Francisco. "It's a story about love, obsession, and extreme emotions of hate," he says. "
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 0:22:38 GMT -5
From Variety: Brosnan a 'Butterfly'
New roles bond to thesp
By IAN MOHR, ADAM DAWTREY
Moving into his post-007 period, Pierce Brosnan is looking to shake and stir expectations: Thesp is taking on the gritty role of a kidnapper who pulls a family apart in the indie thriller "Butterfly on a Wheel." Mike Barker will direct the pic, to be produced by Icon, Irish DreamTime and Infinity Feature Canada.
Icon Entertainment Intl. has snapped up world rights to the thriller, penned by William Morrissey.
Plot centers on a happy couple with a seemingly perfect life whose daughter is abducted. Over the course of a day, the kidnapper dismantles the family's lives with brutal efficiency.
Brosnan takes on the role of the "Butterfly" baddie after playing a hitman in the Weinstein Co.'s upcoming "The Matador." Beau St. Clair -- a principal with Brosnan in Irish DreamTime -- explained that the actor is seeking darker roles following his successful Bond run.
"This was a very conscious shift, in terms of the company, and a new direction for Pierce," St. Clair told Daily Variety. "Darker, edgier roles are really attractive to him right now. In the post-Bond phase, it's time to take that chance. A role can box you in a bit, and Bond is so iconic, it can hang on you."
A February start is skedded, with locations in Canada and Chicago. Producers said further cast will be unveiled in the coming weeks.
"We believe that is a solid commercial addition to our worldwide sales slate," said Icon chairman Bruce Davey.
He added that Icon will distribute the pic in the U.K. and Australia and offer "Butterfly" to international buyers at AFM.
Irish DreamTime has been developing the project with Barker and Morrissey, and Marina Grasic brought in the project to Icon. CAA brokered the pact that brought the various parties together, and the tenpercentery is partnering with Icon on the pic's domestic sale.
Icon's slate includes Mel Gibson's "Apocalypto" and the Brosnan-Liam Neeson starrer "Seraphim Falls."
DreamTime's slate includes the Brosnan-Greg Kinnear vehicle "Matador," and the banner is developing with Sony "The Topkapi Affair," a follow-up to "The Thomas Crown Affair."
Infinity's "Capote" is in release via Sony Pictures Classics. Shingle's "Just Friends" is being rolled out by New Line.
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 0:24:17 GMT -5
Icon has a site for Butterfly on a WheelThey also have a detailed synopsis and for some it could contain spoilers, so read with caution: Director: Mike Barker Writer: William Morrissey Producers: Infinity/Irish DreamTime/Icon Cast: Pierce Brosnan Genre: Thriller Status: Pre-production UK & Australian Distributors: Icon Film Distribution Neil and Abby Warner have the perfect life and a perfect marriage. With their beautiful young daughter, Sophie, they are living the American dream... until today. When Sophie is suddenly kidnapped, they have no choice but to comply with the abductors demands. The kidnapper - Ryan (PIERCE BROSNAN), a cold and calculating sociopath takes over their lives with the brutal efficiency of someone who has nothing to lose. In the blink of an eye Neil and Abby's safe and secure existence is turned upside down. Over the next twenty four hours they are at the mercy of a man who wants only one thing. That they do his bidding. It soon becomes clear that Ryan's demands are all the more terrifying... because he doesn't want their money. What he wants is for Neil and Abbyís life, the life that they have built over 10 years, to be systematically dismantled and destroyed. Piece by piece. With time running out on their little girl, Neil and Abby realise their nightmare is about to take its most deadly turn: They will have to face Ryan's final, horrifying challenge - would they kill an innocent man to save their own child? In the far distance a solitary light burns in the window of a lodge as the car glides to a halt - and Neil knows it is a question only he can answer - when Ryan hands him the gun... Directed by MIKE BARKER (A Good Woman, Best Laid Plans)
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 0:26:24 GMT -5
Post by peter on Nov 16, 2005, 3:10amThe story sound cool.Just curious about the director they choose to do this film ,has he ever made a good film?Re: Butterfly on a Wheel ======================================================== Post by sparklingblue on Nov 16, 2005, 5:07pmIt's a tiny bit like DTTS. But I think here he starts out as the villain from the beginning. This one is going to be interesting.Re: Butterfly on a Wheel ======================================================== Post by Yuliya on Nov 17, 2005, 11:13amIt's a lot like DTTS, IMO, and I want to see that coat again - the best thing about the entire movie, if you ask me. Except for PB, of course. :-/Re: Butterfly on a Wheel ======================================================== Post by Ace on Nov 17, 2005, 12:40pmExcept for the fact that there's a kidnapping it really isn't much like DTTS at all. There's no secret to the kidnapper's identity and it seems as if the kidnapping isn't even the main lynchpin of the plot, just a means to and end and part of an overall scheme. ======================================================== Post by sparklingblue on Nov 17, 2005, 5:43pmLOL! I have a feeling he might not have kept it. ======================================================== Post by Lauryn on Nov 17, 2005, 8:16pmThe scenario reminds me of the movie "Cape Fear" where a creepy ex-con systematically takes apart the lives of an ostensibly "perfect" family. It's been made twice and both films are good; the Scorsese one is more modern and violent, the family not quite so pure, but it gets a bit baroque for me toward the end. The older version is less explicit and the family is duller, but I prefer Robert Mitchum's performance as Max Cady to De Niro's. He's not so superhuman and demonic, but more cunning, amoral, and calculating, and seems like the genuine article: a real ex-con. There's a twisted sexual component to how he interacts with the young daughter in both movie versions, especially the Scorsese one, that I imagine could make me squirm more than any of PB's other roles, if this character of his goes in a similar direction to "Cape Fear." I'm sure the set-up and motivations will be different in "Butterfly on a Wheel" but it will be interesting to see if PB can make the same mark that Mitchum did as an implacable villain.
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 0:27:59 GMT -5
Post by Yuliya on Nov 29, 2005, 9:24pmAnother Russian announcement... Former James Bond – a kidnapper Charming Pierce Brosnan, only yesterday an exemplary James Bond, fighting world-class villains, is turning a villain himself. Former 007 agreed to star in Butterfly on a Wheel thriller. According to the screenplay, a little girl is kidnapped from her parents, a loving, successful couple. The part of the scoundrel-kidnapper will be played by Pierce Brosnan. We won't love him any less for this, but the unpleasant aftertaste will linger… It's for a reason that in the former Soviet Union an actor who had played the part of Lenin could never play a criminal. In case anyone wonders, the part about Lenin is true. The aftertaste is a wink to an old joke. "After you left, we discovered that some silverware was missing. We found it later, but the unpleasant aftertaste lingered...” ==================================================== Post by Ace on Nov 29, 2005, 11:19pmI gather actors thought more than twice about playing Lenin then -- how career limiting.
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 0:29:01 GMT -5
From the UK magazine: Total Film:
Brosnan is a Butterfly Pierce signs up for a kidnap drama 04 Nov 2005 12:26pm
Pierce Brosnan must be really sick of playing the hero. Hot on the heels of quirky indie drama The Matador, in which he played a conflicted hit man, he/s signed up for Butterfly On A Wheel.
Butterfly sees a seemingly perfect family whose life is shattered when their daughter is kidnapped by a criminal (Brosnan) who takes their happy world and turns it upside down.
What's next? A film in which he kicks a puppy and steals sweets from a baby?
Ace
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 0:30:28 GMT -5
Post by Ace on Nov 29, 2005, 11:24pm
Nov 17, 2005, 8:16pm, Lauryn wrote:
I agree on the original Cape Fear being a better film and Mitchum being a far more interesting and effective villain. DeNiro's Cady is such a grotesque caricature that for me he's cringe inducing more than menacing. I also found it hard to believe that the daughter character played by Juliette Lewis would have been for any moment attracted or fooled.... cause YUCK.
Yes, PB playing a methodically villanious kidnapper has a huge potential for squirming -- and the better the film and performance maybe more the discomfort.
Ace
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 0:31:07 GMT -5
Post by Ace on Nov 30, 2005, 12:54am According to HSX, Maria Bello has been cast. This pretty much assures she will get that Oscar nomination for History of Violence because everyone PB now acts with has been nominated. 8-)Re: Butterfly on a Wheel Post by Yuliya on Nov 30, 2005, 12:36pm He has to work with Oscar nominees to be able to have an excuse for his consistently good acting.
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 0:34:38 GMT -5
Post by Yuliya on Nov 30, 2005, 12:36pmHe has to work with Oscar nominees to be able to have an excuse for his consistently good acting. No more career limiting than publicly turning down the part. And I don't think it was a life-time sentence, either. Though except for some very old movies, I can only remember one actor playing Lenin. I don't think he found the part very limited - can't remember him ever playing a villain anyway. Maybe, as my husband pointed out yesterday after reading the same article, the problem was in the ability to play a charming villain convincingly. Nice of him to assume PB's villain will still be charming. I've been wondering about it, though. ==================================================== Post by sparklingblue on Dec 1, 2005, 8:52amI think we might see some charm, and if it's only for him as a front to disguise his mean-ness from others and to use the charm as a contrast to show how bad the character really is. But that's just my guess.Re: Butterfly on a Wheel ==================================================== Post by sparklingblue on Dec 7, 2005, 5:21am The Maria Bello from ER? I suppose she will play the mother of the kidnapped child. Any word whether or not she will take the role? ==================================================== Nov 30, 2005, 12:54am, Ace wrote:Yes she was on ER several years ago. HSX is a pretty official site that gets it's casting news from Variety/ HR/Official Press materials etc and it's usually pretty accurate. ==================================================== Post by sparklingblue on Dec 7, 2005, 4:37pmCool! Thanks! ==================================================== Post by Ace on Jan 18, 2006, 10:37amPierce said on TV in an after Globes interview that this wil indeed be his next project and will co-star Bello and Gerard Butler. It's scheduled to start filming in February.
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 0:35:12 GMT -5
The Vancouver Sun: Matador-hot heartthrob here in February
By: Lynne McNamara
January 18, 2006
Heartthrob alert. Pierce Brosnan will be arriving here in the next month or so to co-star in the indie thriller, Butterfly on a Wheel, with Maria Bello and Scottish star Gerard Butler. Mike Barker will direct for Brosnan's L.A.-based production company, Irish DreamTime (which was formed in 1996 with his biz partner Beau St. Clair with the goal of fostering new talent and producing independent and studio films), Icon Productions and Vancouver producer William Vince's Infinity Media, Inc.
Executive producers are Brosnan, Mel Gibson, St. Clair and Bruce Davey.
Brosnan gained my undying respect back in 1993 while here shooting a teensie TV movie called Don't Talk to Strangers.
He was sick as a dog with the flu, but nevertheless pulled himself together for an interview for my teensie BCTV News segment, Star Tracks. And his greeting: "McNa-mawra, for a Paddy, ya scrub up good!"
A mensch, if there ever were one.
This was before Bond. In fact when I asked him if the rumours that he'd soon take on the role were true, he said he'd heard the gossip, too, but was still waiting for the call. Well, a few years later, he's finally shedding that glossy image with his role in The Matador, where he plays a slimy hit man and in Butterfly, where he'll take on the juicy part of a brutal, kidnapping psycho whose deeds ruin an upscale family. Exteriors, we hear, will be shot in Chicago.
And Brosnan has just razored off the Uncle Sam-style chin hair grown for Seraphim Falls, a Civil War era western, co-starring Liam Neeson, shot in New Mexico and Oregon.
(By the way, did you see Phillip Seymour Hoffman accept his Golden Globe best actor award for Capote on Monday night? You may have noticed he gave a special thanks to the film's producer and his company: "Thank you Infinity, thank you Bill Vince, for helping us and sticking your neck out." That's because Vince took on the art house project when nobody else would. His reward: Infinity owns Capote!
And next, the Oscars....
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Hollywood Reporter: Bello, Butler join Brosnan for 'Butterfly'
January 19, 2006 By Tatiana Siegel
Maria Bello and Gerard Butler have signed on to star opposite Pierce Brosnan in the indie thriller "Butterfly on a Wheel."
Directed by Mike Barker ("Best Laid Plans"), the film is produced by Irish Dreamtime, Infinity Features and Icon Prods.
The story revolves around a happily married couple (Bello and Butler) living in the suburbs whose life unravels when their 5-year-old daughter is kidnapped. Brosnan will play the kidnapper. William Morrissey penned the screenplay.
Filming is set to begin in March in Vancouver.
Icon Entertainment International owns worldwide rights, excluding Canada, where the film will be distributed by Brad Pelman's Maple Pictures. CAA's John Ptak is handling the sale of U.S. rights. William Vince, Dave Valleau, Beau St. Clair and Morrissey are serving as producers.
Bello, who was nominated for a Golden Globe for her role in "A History of Violence," next appears in Oliver Stone's untitled World Trade Center film for Paramount Pictures.
She is repped by CAA, Carrabino Management and attorney Robert Myman.
Butler's credits include "The Phantom of the Opera" and "Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life." He is repped by CAA and Alan Siegel Entertainment.
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 0:38:50 GMT -5
Post by icyvice on Jan 19, 2006, 12:38pmI think the movie is going to be great and not tanked because PB is gaining new fans indirectly for making a movie with Gerard Butler. The Butler discussion boards including IMDB have all gone crazy over the casting news and they are thanking PB for announcing it at the Globes E! Interview (They even came up with a Pierce WAV clip). BTW there is quite an interesting discussion about Pierce and Keely going on there. But Pierce does have quite a lot of fans over there as well...so good news for the movie. ===================================================== Post by jeffrey on Jan 20, 2006, 4:04amEx Bond vs Almost Bond. This sound very cool. Can't wait to see how Brosnan going to play the kidnapper role this time after scoring a Golden Globe nomination for his first rate performance in The Matador.
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 0:39:35 GMT -5
Rocky Mountain News: In 'Sisters,' Bello visits Chekhov country
Maria Bello stars in The Sisters, based on the Chekhov play Three Sisters. She'll be on hand for the Boulder International Film Festival.
By Robert Denerstein, Rocky Mountain News February 15, 2006
When actress Maria Bello arrives in Boulder for Thursday's opening of the second Boulder International Film Festival, it's likely she'll be beaming. She's excited about having worked in The Sisters, the festival's opening-night film, and she's not nearly as upset as most critics about being overlooked for a best-actress Oscar nomination for her work in David Cronenberg's A History of Violence.
"Weirdly, I wasn't upset about the nomination," Bello said in a recent phone conversation. "I have a great belief in timing and the rightness of things. I just felt like, oh, it's not my time."
On the day Bello spoke with the News, she'd just finished work on Oliver Stone's World Trade Center, the real-life story of the two Port Authority cops who became the last survivors rescued from the rubble of the Twin Towers.
"Last night was my last night, and I gave a little speech to everyone," said Bello. "I said I was so honored to tell this story. I'm a small part of telling that story and of showing what that moment meant for so many people. I got home last night and e-mailed all the people who've been so important to me - from my mom to the directors I've worked with - and told them how lucky I am to be doing what I'm doing.
"It's a story of survival and hope. I feel like one of the main things to come out of that day was a sense of humanity and connectedness that I hadn't felt before. I met the families we're portraying. I got to be friends with the woman I'm playing. I found Oliver to be one of the most brilliant people I've ever met. He was perfect for telling that story."
By the sound of things, The Sisters couldn't be further from an Oliver Stone movie. Director Arthur Allan Seidelman and writer Richard Alfieri, who will attend the opening along with producer and University of Colorado grad Judd Payne, have made a movie inspired by Chekhov's classic play Three Sisters.
Chekhov's story has been updated and transferred to the campus of a Manhattan college, where the three Prior sisters attempt to cope with the death of their father.
"I've always loved Three Sisters," said Bello. "When I was doing theater in New York, I auditioned for the part of Masha a couple of times and never got the role. When I read Sisters, I immediately said, 'I have to do this.'
"I talked to Arthur and told him I wanted to read for him. I wanted to read the script out loud, even if I didn't get the part. I was completely taken by the language and emotion of it all."
Bello's aware that most contemporary filmmakers aren't all that concerned with verbal eloquence.
"I love the old Cassavetes films because they're cinematic, but the language is also rich," she said. "The old Katharine Hepburn movies had this kind of electric language we don't hear anymore. When you get a hold of a script with language that jumps off the page, you jump to do it."To make The Sisters, Seidelman had to keep a narrowly focused movie from feeling stage-bound.
"They made a point of finding a cinematic way of telling a story that mostly takes place in one room," said Bello. "The movie was choreographed like a dance. Each part of the room was used as its own intimate section for a couple of people at a time. . . . It's a different type of film. The language sparks the camera movement."
Bello has never visited Boulder, although she spent time in Denver a couple of years ago when John Sayles was filming Silver City. After Boulder, she's off to Japan to help promote A History of Violence. She's then scheduled to film a thriller called Butterfly on a Wheel.
"As far as thrillers go, it's one of the best-written I've ever read," she said. "I always like shifting into a new character."
Bello, who says she prefers reading to attending movies, does watch her own work.
"I don't find it difficult to watch myself, but I don't like to see a movie more than two or three times. If I do, I tend to start judging myself.
"I saw Sisters about six months ago (at a festival). I went with a friend. We were holding hands through the movie and we were crying. I wasn't thinking it was me up there on the screen. I was just following the story. If it's a good story, I'm very moved by the heart of the characters."
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 0:40:49 GMT -5
Post by tom on Mar 9, 2006, 4:21am
didn't the film start rolling today?
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Post by Ace on Mar 9, 2006, 5:40pm
There are two different start dates, the 8th and the 11th. But an article about the producer Vince (who was in LA for the Oscars for producing Capote) said he flew back to Vancouver on Monday with Brosnan, Bello and Butler. So they probably started rehearsals/fittings/etc if not yet filming.
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Post by Ace on Mar 9, 2006, 10:55pm
Chicago Sun Times: Scoopsville . . .
Tipsville . . .
Dateline: Celluloid City -- Some scenes in the upcoming Pierce Brosnan movie "Butterfly on a Wheel" will film in Chicago in May.
*The upshot: It's welcome news for local film folks, who lately have been losing feature film productions to Boston, New York City and Canada.
*The downshot: "It's just a very small portion of the film and I don't know if these are scenes that involve [Brosnan]," Chicago film office boss Rich Moskal told Sneed.
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 0:41:09 GMT -5
Post by Ace on Mar 9, 2006, 10:59pm
BUTTERFLY ON A WHEEL Butterfly Productions
Exec Prods: William Vince/Beau St. Clair/Pierce Brosnan/Bruce Davey/Marina Grasic
Producers: William Morrisey/Dave Valleau
Director: Mike Barker
DOP: Ashley Rowe
577 Great Northern Way, 2nd Floor Vancouver, B.C. V5T 1E1
Prep: January 2006 Shoot: March 11, 2006 Wrap: May 1, 2006
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 0:42:58 GMT -5
Post by Ace on Mar 13, 2006, 10:44pm I swiped and cropped these from a Gerry Butler fan site (yes I'm shameless but I did cut out the innocent civilians he posed with) but I felt the need to share because -- Just after finally getting his hair back to the right length he chopped off all his hair again! But at least it's not another mustache or beard -- just stubble (and I like stubble).
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 0:45:45 GMT -5
Post by IcyCalm on Mar 13, 2006, 11:19pmHell and damnation!!!!! "Just after finally getting his hair back to the right length he chopped off all his hair again!" - you got that right, Ace! I guess if he's playing a nasty villian, he might as well look it. But Pierce, please! We HATE when you cut your hair! I certainly hope he doesn't play a villian in his next film. Thomas Crown? Give Mr. Crown a new look and grow it out - just for us? Please? IcyCalm P.S. By the way, will he be considered a villian in Seraphim Falls as well? Re: Butterfly on a Wheel ====================================================== Post by Ace on Mar 13, 2006, 11:42pmFrom what I've heard about Seraphim Falls there's no real villain, it's all about a feud left over from the war. PB has described it as an anti-war film. Butterfly is only filming for 7 weeks. It wraps May 1st, and the way his hair grows he'll probably have enough time to grow it and then cut it again before filming. Thomas Crown has a certain look (which I loved) and I doubt he'll be changing it that much, though it's longer than this current look. ====================================================== Post by sparklingblue on Mar 14, 2006, 7:32amHis hair is indeed a tad short, but I agree, it will look convincing on a villain. Pierce must know we love his hair, and since he plays a villain, he has to make us dislike something about his look as well (well, at least a tiny bit). Ace wrote: Amen to that. LOL ====================================================== Post by Yuliya on Mar 14, 2006, 12:04pmI like stubble, but on these pictures the combination of the stubble and the haircut makes him look like a con, not like a villain. Maybe the effect is also amplified by the posture and the clothes, but over all he looks like somebody who'd been to jail a few times already and is heading back for another time. I don't like this look. I hope he won't look like that in the movie because this villain is too ovbiously a villain to be an interesting and multi-faceted character. ====================================================== Post by Ace on Mar 14, 2006, 12:24pmI don't think the short hair makes one look more or less like a con and it's not as if he didn't have the hair this short last year in the summer, or even before this. It's not entirely new nor confined to a villain look. He looks rough but he doesn't look cheap or thuggish. Rather the look is very economical. I imagine when one kidnaps and terrorizes one doesn't have time for the blowdryer or mouse, and when push comes to shove might not have time to shave either. ====================================================== Post by Yuliya on Mar 14, 2006, 12:56pmYou and I may have different ideas on how ex-cons look like. I haven't seen too many Amreican prison movies, besides, I don't think they look like they do in those movies anyway. PB looks like somebody who has seen the insides of a few Russian prisons and liked the life enough to try for more. And no, it's not just the hair, like I said, it's the entire combination of the haircut, stubble, posture, clothes, even the grin - it just fits the stereotype I have for such a person, that's all. ====================================================== Post by Ace on Mar 14, 2006, 1:11pmHonestly considering the expense of that leather jacket and the probably expensive short hair cut and "designer stubble" he could just as easily be any number of up scale business guys hanging out at the local hot spot in NYC on any weekend. Though the wardrobe and stance does change the look a bit. Yvo posted recent hotos of him with the same haircut and stubble with shades on, wearing a suede jacket and light pants carrying books in a box and the effect was completely non-Con. ====================================================== Post by Yuliya on Mar 14, 2006, 2:12pmSee? And if he were wearing an expensive crimson jacket, he'd pass for some of those upscale business guys hanging out at some hot spot in Moscow, though 1) in that case he'd probably be an ex-con anyway, or at least still look like one, and 2) he's not wearing enough gold for the occasion. Naturally, books would be out of the question. Right props are very important.
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 0:47:38 GMT -5
Post by Ace on Mar 14, 2006, 3:00pm Ah cultural differences. If he was wearing a crimson coat in the US he'd probably be a pimp.
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 0:48:46 GMT -5
Post by Yuliya on Mar 14, 2006, 3:19pm
Well, this is different. Certainly not a thug anymore.
I don't know what Russian pimps wear; something cheaper, I assume, though not necessarily, depending on the price of the, er, merchandise. Probbly not crimson, though.
The stereotype of a Russian bandit-cum-new businessman is a bit passe, now they're not necessarily bandits and more refined even if they are. But in the 90-ies the image had to include a very short haircut, crimson jacket, lots of gold, often a gold cross, cell phone (must-have!), menacing look, ostentatiously expensive habits, usually very low intellect (otherwise would they look like that?), and thief slang, very thick.
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Post by Chayna on Mar 15, 2006, 8:11pm
My first thought on seeing these pics was of Death Train, slightly older but looking oh soooo good.
Chayna
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 0:49:24 GMT -5
Post by Ace on Mar 17, 2006, 9:34am Another on set pic from a fan at gerardbutler.net
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 0:50:02 GMT -5
Post by Ace on Mar 17, 2006, 7:25pm From: www.dustinmilligan.com/index.htmlMarch 16, 2006 -Butterfly on a Wheel Dustin will play the character Mike Ryan, the son of Pierce Brosnan's character in the film "Butterfly on a Wheel".
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