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Post by remingtonstelee on Aug 16, 2006 22:25:37 GMT -5
So far I am disappointed. Having never seen any of it and being wowed by Season 3, although I am only 4 episodes in it seems all over the map. I really found the 2 parter that opened the season (Steele Searching) to be hard to follow, Steele Blushing was ok, and the wrestling inspired 4th ep Grappling Steele was a bit worse. I will keep posting as the season unravels but after such a gripping end to Season 3, this season seems flat and somewhat uninspired (so FAR!).
Steele Searching was the most disappointing b/c it had so much potential, and I have always wanted them to delve into Rem's past but it seems a bit ham handed. Perhaps I should watch it again, but it seemed like it had waaay too many characters in it and it seemed to jump around quite a bit.
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Post by steeleinc on Aug 16, 2006 22:46:03 GMT -5
4th Season has always been my favorite season because of the "Mr. and Mrs. Steele" feel of the episodes. Though R and l aren't married, they behave like a married couple. They're comfortable together and they trust each, but at the same time they are still romantic. There are very few interrupted romantic moments.
Debra
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Post by Ace on Aug 17, 2006 0:01:39 GMT -5
I think the most frustrating thing about Season 4 is that Season 3 ended on a huge relationship cliffhanger and #4 picks up and doesn't really deal with any of the repercussions. Laura screams at Steele for leaving without word, he says he's sorry and they get into some capers. There's no discussion of Laura unilaterally calling a "time out" in their relationship or her admitting she'd actually gone so far as to get on a plane to go away with Westfeld before she changed her mind. Like so many times Laura gets a free pass for her actions in the relationship and the writers after bringing us to the edge where they finally should have to confront and admit something pull back and it's almost back to where they were in Season 2. Regardless of what Gleason believes I think the time had come for them to evolve and by not doing so the relationship began to stagnate a bit. Yes there's a more comfortable feeling between them in some of the episodes, and in some you can actually believe they crossed that line with out our seeing, but we don't get any big emotional scene that clearly changes the playing field or arc that builds from episode to episode. And yet Season 4 has some of my favorite episodes. I actually do enjoy Steele Searching when I watch it for what it is and not regret what it isn't. I like Grappling and Blushing as well. Favorites from the year though are Premium, Beg Borrow & Steele, Steele Sensitive -- they;'re also favorite from the entire 4 years. There are also the Santa Episodes, Steele Inc, Steele In The Spotlight and yes the notorious Bonds that are standouts for me. And so many more are just enjoyable. I think it had very few clunkers (none as bad as Springtime or Chips, IMO) and even those have some scenes that are enjoyable. Of course, it also helps that Pierce is more gorgeous in Seasons 4 and 5 than in 1-3.  Ace |
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Post by remingtonstelee on Aug 17, 2006 0:15:30 GMT -5
Oh me of such little faith:) I had planned on chiming in here every disc or so, but after having just viewed "Forged Steele" (episode 5) I practically jumped to my PC:) A HUGE turn around! A 5/5 episode if ever there was one! I am a sucker for "lost time" in movies and TV shows and this plays that element to the NTH degree! Also having the re appearence of one Norman Keyes from Vigilance Insurance and I am one happy viewer!! When this show hits it hits BIG and that I can live with. Thanks to all aboard this topic for your opinions! Keep them coming.... Ace, you were RIGHT on the money with "I think the most frustrating thing about Season 4 is that Season 3 ended on a huge relationship cliffhanger and #4 picks up and doesn't really deal with any of the repercussions." I was like..... "HUH"? Am I missing something here........  Spoiler! And I was disappointed with the conclusion of Steele Searching. The whole "eye color" as a factor for Rem not being the son was a bit of a reach as far as a "certainty". Doesn't this stuff change over time? But I was pleased at the passport he received at the very end:) |
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Post by Ace on Aug 17, 2006 0:39:20 GMT -5
Ah Forged. I can't believe I forgot that one, it belongs in the "favorites" group. It not only gives us very good relationship scenes of Steele with Laura (like the one at the Courthouse) and Mildred but the mystery is excellent, as are the guest characters.
As for baby eye color, I've heard that sometimes blue turns to brown but not that brown turns to blue, so I think that works. But then I'm not up on baby eye color changes.
I must say though that I'm not upset with the resolution. The Duke's unsavory past was glossed over far to easily IMO and it left a bad taste.
Ace
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Post by londonstreet on Aug 17, 2006 7:01:25 GMT -5
I've just seen few episodes from the 4 season. Steele Searching is ok with me even it would be better if they found out something interesting from Remington's past and if the end would have been more romantic, or some explanations between R and L.
Grappling Steele is not so good but i guess there's a real good moment between L and R while dancing in his apartment and I also love the dialogue between R and Whitney while she's taking the glass of ice water.
I guess that what you said Ace about watching Steele Searching without thinking of what it could have been it's right for all the 4 Season. I mean it's a really good season but certainly could have been better if at the end L and R arrived at a certain point in their relationship. Maybe it could have happened if the writers knew for certain that was going to be the season near the end.
As for children eyes, it all depends on when the earl saw his son. Usually when children are just born you can't say what colour they are because, unless the colour is a light one, they all seem to be a dark blue. Usually they take the real colour after some months, however before the end of the first year I believe you can be quite sure about the real colour.
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Post by Yuliya on Aug 17, 2006 10:04:59 GMT -5
Also having the re appearence of one Norman Keyes from Vigilance Insurance and I am one happy viewer!! Oh, you like Keyes! Then you'll like Bonds and the first two hours of Season 5.  Ace is right about the eyes, I think. As a baby grows, they can grow darker (if they're pale) or lighter (if they're so dark they almost look black) or they can change from blue to brown, but I've never heard of a baby born with brown eyes that leter turned blue. |
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Post by remingtonstelee on Aug 17, 2006 12:51:02 GMT -5
About the eyes; I think it's just that Steele walks right in and "instantly" it is determined by the Earle that Rem is not ''him'', guess that's the "TV" angle though. Guess this is before DNA:) Ace, I was wondering how good those others you mentioned are if "Forged" didn't make your list!! Guess you just overlooked it Even the mystery to this one was excellent! I normally watch this series (if I'm being honest) for the relationship angle between R and L and was shocked to see the mystery elements exceeding it! I was truly baffled about what the hell was happening in the first 25-30 minutes or so, and their new "boss" was a riot!! Pakistan multiple whip lash case? Classic! |
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Post by remingtonstelee on Aug 18, 2006 23:51:47 GMT -5
You HAVE to LOVE the Premium Steele banter with the VCR!! Priceless!!! And the ending (when they got it all fixed) with the line from Gone With the Wind just made me grin. Damn fine Season even if it is uneven. Even if I can find only half a dozen standouts (of course I HOPE there is more but...), these dvd sets are SO worth it! I can't believe there is a review on Amazon telling people not to buy it... Coffee Tea or Steele with the intern is great too!! I wonder if they had planned a Mildred Krebs spin off.... Seems unlikely I guess. |
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Post by sparklingblue on Aug 19, 2006 9:06:03 GMT -5
There's always a reviewer on Amazon to tell you not to buy something that you buy regardless and end up liking a great deal. Different people like different stuff. And some may just be spoilsports.  |
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Post by Myrtle Groggins on Aug 24, 2006 4:16:28 GMT -5
Beware: Possible spoiler comments included if you haven't seen the 5th season episodes yet! Spoiler in italics. Ah Forged. As for baby eye color, I've heard that sometimes blue turns to brown but not that brown turns to blue, so I think that works. But then I'm not up on baby eye color changes. Ace
So yes, I thought the conclusion that RS couldn't be his true son, Sean James, was a copout simply because of the eye color.
I can't believe how much I'm enjoying the 4th season after having watched it on PAX and PAX didn't show several of the episodes. I really did enjoy "Steele Blushing" because Mildred had such a large part. Loved her on the ledge of the apartment building and that she drove around in the Auburn for part of the episode. Also, I've noticed that Laura's apartment has gotten rather cluttered since its bare early days of Season Two. Have you noticed the amount of plants in that place? Laura would spent days watering and taking care of all that. Sheesh. I do love have her furnishing moves around from episode to episode and sometimes at different parts of one episode. I did notice that in Season Four, they don't show the loft as much as in Seasons Two and Three. Sad.
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Post by Myrtle Groggins on Sept 5, 2006 22:46:11 GMT -5
I'm bumping this up in case others want to comment on Season Four. Don't want it to get lost, do we? |
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Post by lotsofluck on Sept 23, 2006 2:59:41 GMT -5
Has anyone else had problems with the dvds? My Dancer Prancer Donner and Steele has been bad (freezing) on 3 dvd sets so far. I have exchanged at different Best Buy stores but keep having the same problem on the same program....no problem on any of the other dvds nor on any other dvds I own.
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Post by Ace on Sept 23, 2006 11:50:51 GMT -5
I haven't gone through all the episodes yet but I am up to the fourth disc with no problems so far.
But I've yet to have problems with any of my RS DVD sets. I'm not sure whether that's because I've been lucky (and I've ordered each one from a different online store- Amazon, B&N, DDD and Overstock) or whether it's because of my DVD player. It's pretty low-middle end, but it's never had trouble playing any new DVDs-- though it has had glitches playing heavily scrathed up discs from the library or rental store.
Ace
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Post by Ace on Sept 24, 2006 2:29:17 GMT -5
Steele Running. The most blatant beefcake moment in the entire series. Steele running in the triathlon -- in tight jeans with his shirt unbuttoned and flying open behind him. OH. MY. GOD. A scene like this makes this overall rather lackluster episode must see TV. If Steele In The Air had a similiar scene it wouldn't be on the bottom of my Season 4 list, and it would certainly perk up Steele Blue Yonder. (which I actually enjoyed more watching this time around though it's still not high end Steele) I think after reading the script the director knew somewhere somehow Steele was going to have to take some of his clothes off to keep the audience interested. Too bad it happens so early on when the episode is actually at its highest point and very enjoyable before it becomes a mishmash of chase scenes, mistaken identity and plenty of uninteresting secondary characters. - The office scene with the role reversal where Laura is being more Steele like than Steele
- Poor Mr Steele is losing his tan and getting paper cuts but actually looking very competent with the case files
- Steele wondering why any sane person would want to run 26 miles without being chased
- Steele showing up for Laura at 6am (what a sport) with the limo (did Laura think he'd pick her and her bicycle up in the Auburn?) and under a blanket and with delicious pastries, a silver tray and china cups. If you've got it flaunt it. (and we learn Fred isn't married. Shhh.)
- Steele running with his shirt open -- as said O.M.G. It also begs the question why is Laura burning all her calories and energy running when there are much more pleasurable ways to get exercise?
- Steele should start worrying about long term brain damage. How many times can one person be knocked unconscious and still be able to recite the alphabet?
- I really enjoy Steele's take on Laura's double standards or what Laura refers to as semantics.
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Post by IcyCalm on Sept 24, 2006 17:32:51 GMT -5
Season 4 shows some magnificent moments. But also some weak, or rather tense ones. I remember in the 80's watching the first-run episodes and wondering why on earth Laura is so mean to adorable and well-meaning Remington. In season 4 even he begins to snipe back, "I might, just to annoy you," in Steele Running, and that oh-so-realistic row in Sensitive Steele.
Never mind that - the whole season is blown away (maybe even the entire series) by one totally awesome scene: where Steele wakes up baffled and WEARING NOTHING BUT BRIEFS in the Rexford Palms Hotel in Steele Forged. Glory be to Fox for reviving a scene that has been PAX'd out of existance for 20 years. My poor DVD player was never forced to repeat a scene more frequently - I may just wear it out. I have about a dozen favourite Steele scenes, but this one has to win the oscar for me.
-IcyCalm
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Post by Lauryn on Sept 28, 2006 20:50:41 GMT -5
Ooh, la la! How did I wander into this discussion? My old mate Paris Match from the Mysterynet boards always had an eye for Remington Steele, the centerfold -- that is, those times he was almost exclusively in the scene to be (in her words) "a hot piece of flaming a*s." If "Forged Steele" and "Steele in the Running" are duking it out in season four, maybe there should some kind of awards system. But should it be more a measure of how much skin is showing or the amount of objectification in the eyes of the beholders?
To wit, season one. We barely know he has chest hair until "Thou Shalt Not Steele" but we do get that wonderful though fully buttoned up scene in "Hearts" where Laura and the ex-wives club at the restaurant are ready to yell "it's happy hour," spritz him with lime juice, and down him in one gulp. Ditto Season Two and "My Fair Steele." No matter what Mildred says about Laura's first dibs I think she'd really like to mud wrestle Roxie for Mr. Steele's towel. Hmm. Both skin and gratuitous ogling, there.
Speaking of towels, there's always "Red Holt" for more of him, dripping wet. And Steele in his robe in that one is what the French invented words like "dishabille" for. Open-shirted and dripping wet just seems to be on the list of Playgirl magazine turn-ons for season two and heading for three like "Steele At It," when Laura flings him on the sand. Sure, she's screaming bloody murder at him, but that doesn't spoil the view or the frisson. Just to mention a very few. But when the fifth season hoves into view, what's up with the tank top ensembles and the perma-tan bicep flexing? It's either a catalog photo shoot for "International Male" or Steele and Tony (the anti-Steele) heard there was a dip in the world's testosterone levels and decided to flood the N. American market.
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Post by sparklingblue on Sept 29, 2006 4:09:42 GMT -5
I watched Sensitive Steele last night, after not having seen it in ages. I still love the episode, maybe especially so because Steele "got to wear jeans, mate" and on the whole looked, forgive my language, bloody gorgeous. Their fight wasn't bad as well, with Steele roaring like crazy. I'm also still dying to know what they wrote in those letters. But my favourite bit is still the last scene, when they are taking a walk on the beach.
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Post by Lauryn on Sept 29, 2006 10:14:20 GMT -5
I watched Sensitive Steele last night, after not having seen it in ages. I still love the episode, maybe especially so because Steele "got to wear jeans, mate" and on the whole looked, forgive my language, bloody gorgeous. Their fight wasn't bad as well, with Steele roaring like crazy.... And with a rather shameless amount of chest hair on display, too, as if he were playing a game of "strip bataka" button-by-button and losing. (I've always held that for every deep discussion, there's always a shallow end.) |
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Post by Ace on Sept 29, 2006 14:22:43 GMT -5
For the later seasons -- he's actually quite buttoned up in Sensitive considering. It's no Pocketful or Malta -- un-buttoned-wise. The absolute best look in Sensitive though is THE SWEATER which is even more gorgeous on DVD where I could actually see the patterned squares underneath are BLUE. To me it's always looked all grey-black on TV or tapes. I love that bataka scene in Sensitive. It's wonderful to finally see Steele unleash his anger and frustration (unlike Laura who has a hair trigger temper and unleashes at will) because he does it so rarely -- so it's all the more explosive and powerful in this instance. The fact that I also think everything he says is absolutely spot on true just makes it better. Interestingly, while Laura whacks him several times with the bataka he only bops her on the head (rather lightly) once when she brings up "commitment". So even while Laura or the other couple previous to them were going full out with their batakas, he's physically still quite gentle with her while exploding all over her verbally. Which reminds me of a wonderful observation on the commentary by Gleason and Butler in License, of how Pierce plays 'the not yet Steele' handling Laura with such gentlemanly care in the aroused with curiosity champagne scene. He does, and it becomes one of the innate characteristics of Steele . The dialogue itself could have been delivered in a much more obvious cocky, pushy, macho etc manner. But he manages to be flirtatious, sexy, playful, challenging and yet still respectful and gentlemanly which makes his come-ons vastly more appealing and disarming. Back to Steele (poor objectified man) as the poster for sex... The dripping wet, fresh from the shower, pulling on his sweatshirt in Red Holt-- if he'd waited a little longer and pulled on his shirt after he opened the door I have a hard time believing Laura could have even feigned being upset. As for Mildred objecting to the towel clad Steele in My Fair Steele -- I think the lady doth protest too much. And it's not as if he hasn't changed in front of her before -- Steele Away With Me anyone? (oh wait maybe that was the 5th season in Mexico? Must do research.) And of course Mildred was staking her claim with Roxie -- she didn't interrupt all those dates and kisses with Steele and Laura just out of a burning need to be efficient at the work place. |
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