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Post by Ace on Jun 27, 2006 23:49:54 GMT -5
Admin Note: Since the board was accidently deleted I've had to scrape up stuff from Google and cut and paste and this format is the best I could do. I can't seem to find one page that deals with October. If I recall that conversation mostly centered around the set photos . Sorry for the mess . Pierce Brosnan Files: Seraphim Falls=================================================== Posted by IcycalmOct 29, 2005 This bit of news accompanied my morning tea today: "Liam Neeson and Pierce Brosnan are to star in a new film called 'Seraphim Falls'. Described as a "psychological action movie", Production Weekly reports that the film is set during the American Civil War, with Neeson playing an army colonel who pursues Brosnan's character across the West in order to kill him. The film will mark the big screen directorial debut of David Von Ancken, whose television credits include 'CSI: NY', 'Cold Case', 'Without a Trace' and 'The Shield'. 'Seraphim Falls' will be shot in New Mexico in October." How do we feel about our boy appearing in an Americal Western? I KNEW Pierce was up to something, not just Thomas Crown Affair II. He did say on his website he was anxious to get back to work. Lemme see ... who do I know in New Mexico?
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 1:58:46 GMT -5
Posted by sparklingblueA project together with Liam Neeson sounds definitely interesting. Didn't he also say he was going to film Butterfly on a wheel in autumn in San Francisco? He must have a very tight "shedule", then. And a tendency for films with poetic-sounding titles. ================================== Posted by Kristýna on Aug 30, 2005, 12:39pm And this one, I found on internet. It´s something about the movie... ========================================= « Yuliya reply on Aug 30, 2005, 1:26pm » It looks like somebody got some names confusing. theZreview also has Neeson and PB listed for the movie. However, other resources, such as CHUD and ioncinema say it's Richard Gere, not PB. I intend to believe them - look at this article in Calgary Sun, as well. I'm sorry to disapoint those who already had their hopes high for this movie, though. Frankly, I'm glad. I want to see Topkapi. I want to see if it it turns out well, but that's another story.
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 1:59:06 GMT -5
«Ace reply on Aug 30, 2005, 5:56pm » Production Weekly which is an industry source like Variety & Hollywood Reoprter has the news on their front page (with a photo of PB from the Gotham shoot last year) www.productionweekly.com/site.htmlFrom last reports they're still working on Topkapi's script so that wouldn' start until next year at the earliest anyway. It wasn't even mentioned in his near upcoming projects on his website and Butterly on A Wheel was changed from hopefully a strat in Sept to just soemthing they're working on several weeks ago. Also: Dark Horizons states PB has replaced Gere. Brosnan Replaces Gere In "Falls" Posted: Tuesday August 30th, 2005 4:23pm Source: Production Weekly Author: Garth Franklin Pierce Brosnan and Liam Neeson are signed to star in David Von Acken's directorial debut "Seraphim Falls" reports Production Weekly. Brosnan is taking over a role originally set for Richard Gere. The psychological action film set in the Civil War-era has Neeson playing Carver, an army colonel who vows to kill Brosnan's character Gideon whatever the cost and pursues him across the West. Von Acken, who's directed episodes of "The Shield" and "CSI:NY" will shoot the film in New Mexico in October. Von Acken and Abbey Everett penned the script.
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 2:02:48 GMT -5
« sparklingblue reply on Aug 30, 2005, 6:55pm »
I can't help but getting a kick out of that. ;D ======================================
« Ace reply on Aug 30, 2005, 7:05pm »
Well... I like Gere, quite a bit --more as he's become older. I doubt though he was "replaced", he probably just a scheduling conflict and dropped out.
Ace
« sparklingblue reply on Aug 30, 2005, 7:22pm »
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 2:05:16 GMT -5
«Barbara reply on Aug 31, 2005, 12:46am »
When I first read this, I gotta admit I thought to myself, "OK...so this Rory Mannion and Jim O'Brien at it again, older but no wiser."
Obviously LN was not in Manions of America, but I can't be the only well informed person whose mind went there.
I sincerely hope someone who has brains at Eon takes this cover story and posts it in as many places as he or she can so Barbara Broccoli sees that some folks like Pierce better than Richard ******* Gere. What is her major malfunction? ============================================
« Simon – Guest reply on Aug 31, 2005, 2:08am »
The kind of film has been made many time e.g Lee Marvin/Charles Bronson Death Hunts , Tommy Lee Jones/Deltoro The Hunted , Mel Gibson/Jason Issac The Patriot etc.
Maybe its still too early to judge but the casting of two Irish Cinema giants and produce by Mel Gibson is a plus sign.
My only guessing game is who going to get top billing? ===========================================
« IcyCalm reply on Aug 31, 2005, 8:20am »
Top Billing? Pierce.
I absolutely abhor Westerns. Dispise them. I've always felt safe believing that PB would never appear in one, with his culltured and impecable speaking voice, appearance and manner. One more security blanket shot to hell. Oh well, perhaps there's a silver lining to be had:
1. He should be sporting LONG HAIR. Please, please let it be so. Men of the Civil War days wore their hair long, and frankly that is the only good thing that can be said of that miserable era.
2. We may be finally treated to a good dose of PB's horsemanship. He's got a natural ease around horses, which we saw as early as Manions, surprising for a lad from south London. Horses have appeared with Pierce in many a film but I've never seen him flat out ride like the wind. Give him a spirited black stallion, please, and let him loose on it as it if were an Astin Martin.
3. I would think PB will appear well tanned (another south London irony), as one does in our sunbelt.
Some other things I hope:
As Liam relentlylessly persues him across primitive America, Pierce stops frequently to shave.
I wonder if there is a female involved in the plot. If not, would this be a first for PB? I wouldn't mind too much, just don't make a habit of it.
I fervently hope Ace is right and he presents himself as Irish or at least from the British Empire. We know PB can do accents but PLEASE no American.
Lastly, I hope Liam fails in his mission and doesn't bump off his quarry. I cannot watch the end of "Strangers" or "Protocol." I won't do it.
I don't ask for much.... IcyCalm
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 2:10:48 GMT -5
« Ace reply on Aug 31, 2005, 11:56am »PB has ridden a horse full out throttle in The Deceivers. He also did his own stunt too by taking down the horse after the stuntman broke his leg and couldn't do it. I love Westerns when they're done well, like any other genre of film. Few are made today, like the musical they're a dying genre. Only Eastwood and *cough* Costner seem to make them any more -- at least adult ones. John Ford, an Irishman, was the premire director of American Westerns so it's rather fitting two Irishmen are doing a Western. ###### "Seraphim Falls"www.soundpictures.com"Seraphim Falls" is about a man named Gideon who can't escape his past. Colonel Morsman Carver is on one final mission: to kill Gideon, no matter what it takes. Launched by a gunshot and propelled by rage, the relentless pursuit will take them both far from the comforts and codes of civilization, into the bloodiest recesses of their own souls – and neither one of them is likely to survive the journey. "Seraphim Falls" is a taut psychological action film, an epic chase and primal battle set in the mythic landscape of the West. "Seraphim Falls" was written by David von Ancken, who is attached to direct. I'm so glad Pierce is playing "Gideon" and not "Morsman Carver"" Yikes, Morsman-- what name! The name Gideon and the the title Seraphim --- very interesting. The director/writer interests me. Looking up at his IMDB he's directed several high quality intelligent TV shows and the short film he wrote and directed seems to have been very well reviewed. Pierce said in his recent Entertainment Weekly interview that his next film was going to be for Mel Gibson's company and the IonCinema link Yuliya provided shows that Icon Entertainment is indeed producing and distributing the film. His company was one of the bidders on PB's The Matador at Sundance. Ace
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 2:11:46 GMT -5
« Yuliya reply on Aug 31, 2005, 12:32pm » How is it that the only time I found somethign that hadn't been posted yet I found it too early and it was wrong? When I looked, none of the links about PB replacing Gere were there yet, and the only one I found looked like a mistake. Oh well... I hope it turns out well. In my today's negative mood, I have a feeling I've already seen this movie. It consists of a chase through some picturesque scenery, close encounters between the hunter and the hunted, near misses, and frequent flashbacks into the past to show the source of the hatred both characters feel. And here's how it ends. - The hunter kills the evil hunted. - The hunter thinkis he kills the charming hunted, but we know better. - The hunter realizes the hunted isn't as bad as he thought he was and lets him go. - The hunter still knows the hunted is very bad, but the latter commits an act of heroism saving a kitten/puppy/child from a burning house, the former lets him go. - The smart hunted kills the evil hunter. - The smart hunted nearly kills the righteous hunter but can't commit such crime and lets him go. - The hunter and the hunted reconcile their differences while saving a kitten/puppy/child from a burning house. I think I've outlined all the possibilities. It can still be a good movie, despite the fact it's all been done over and over again. Do you suppose Gere dropped off because he didn't want to do Irish accent again?
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 2:13:55 GMT -5
« Ace reply on Aug 31, 2005, 12:39pm » Every movie and story has been done and done over and over again-- at least in it's barest plot form outlines -- it's the execution and the nuances that matters. I doubt Gere had to use an accent for the role, or that anyone would have wanted him to. Ace =========================================== « curious george reply on Aug 31, 2005, 12:40pm » You left out one scenario: not only do the hunter and hunted reconcile, but Gideon gets the other guy to agree that they will spend the rest of their lives passing out Bibles to hotels. :: snickers :: cg ========================================== «Ace reply on Aug 31, 2005, 12:42pm » Nah, Gideon surviving and setting up a trumpet shop seems far more like it. Ace
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 2:15:49 GMT -5
« IcyCalm reply on Aug 31, 2005, 2:03pm » Right, Pierce did some horse work in Deceivers, I forgot. But traditionally, horses have more fun in the old American west than in the mountains of India. We can hope for a flashy performance there. But oh my goodness - in reading the priminary storyline this sounds like a hell-bent adventure indeed. Fast paced with lots of running, jumping, shooting, swimming, fighting - positively exhausting! Gee wiz, do you think poor OLD ailing Pierce can handle it? YOU BET YOUR BUCKSHOT HE CAN. You stupid, foolish, arrogant Broccolis. They have shot themselves in the foot. Ya think? I hope when they get a view of PB's fit, trim frame in Matador they'll realize they made the biggest blunder of their careers. Eat your veggies, Icy calm ==================================== « Ace reply on Aug 31, 2005, 3:27pm » If I recall, the horse racing in The Deceivers mostly played out on the plains and through a field. But yes there should be much more of it in a western, especially one where the core of the film is the chase. I think though that Seraphim Falls will mostly be a western drama with action as oppossed to an action film with drama. I doubt the Broccoli's will look at Pierce in The Matador, where he's as sleazy as can be -- in what many have deemed an anti-Bond performance (because we all know everything is about Bond- gag) and regret anything. Rumors are they didn't like him doing what he did in Tailor of Panama. They'd probably prefer their Bond actor never to do anything but Bond films so they can always maintain the "image". Either way, if PB in 4 successful Bond films didn't convince them he was the best choice for Bond 21, not much else will.
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 2:30:15 GMT -5
«Yuliya reply on Aug 31, 2005, 3:51pm » Yuck! I forget; you haven't seen The Jackal, have you? Later edit. My "Yuck!" referred to CG's suggestion to spend the rest of their lives passing out Bibles to hotels, but while I was typing, others have squeezed in their posts. ================================================= «Ace reply on Aug 31, 2005, 3:57pm » Not all of it, but enough to doubt anyone would want Gere to use an accent ever again. Ace
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 2:31:00 GMT -5
« Reply by sparklingblue on Aug 31, 2005, 4:30pm »
If you don't mind, I'll sign my name under that wish list. Except, I think I would mind a little if there were no leading lady for Pierce to charm.
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 2:31:26 GMT -5
« Reply by Lauryn on Sept 2, 2005, 10:06pm »
Aug 30, 2005, 11:28pm, Ace wrote:
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 2:33:00 GMT -5
« Reply by Lauryn on Sept 3, 2005, 12:50am »
Speaking of Pierce as a lad, his hometown of Navan has a racecourse. I came across this info when looking up bits about the Cheltenham Gold Cup. (This is what happens when you read far too many Dick Francis novels in your spare time.) The Navan racecourse, which has been around since the 1920's, hosts some of the Cheltenham Trials, preps for the Gold Cup. The Cheltenham Gold Cup is part of the "jump racing" season called the National Hunt. (Jump racing comprises both hurdles and steeplechase which differ by such factors as length of the course and the type of obstacles.) I don't think they have flat racing in Navan and their most important meets are in the winter which makes it all a bit less fashionable, LOL!
This is a long way of getting around to wondering whether PB went to the track as a boy. In Ireland and the UK horse racing is more of a family sport than it is here nowadays, so it was a likely something to do on an outing.
Susannah over at Mysterynet has seen the SMA at Santa Anita on a couple of occasions, more evidence, if it were needed, that like Mr. Steele, he has a fondness for the ponies.
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 2:34:01 GMT -5
« Reply by Ace on Sept 3, 2005, 1:10am » Do not frighten me by even bringing up the horrid spectre of Kenneth Branaugh's accent or that abomination of a film he was in. *shudders* Pierce and Liam could both easily be playing charactrer that are Irish Northerners (U.S. Northerners that it is) . It would be refreshing if their battle post Civil war didn't have to do with North/South issues. It would be amusing though seeing Liam Neeson play a Confederate officer right before he plays Lincoln for Speilberg next year. Interesting thought about his exposure to horses when growing up in rural Ireland, though maybe the closest he got was the neighborhood pack mules. Navan is pretty small though so maybe he he was taken to the races. But yes he loves horses and "the ponies". He also goes to the race courses in Ireland when he's there and I believe he owns stakes in some race horses, or used to (even back in RS days) He owns his own horses for riding-- and jumping is how he injured his back pre-Goldeneye. Ace
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 2:34:41 GMT -5
« Reply by Ace on Sept 5, 2005»
According to Figaro:
He goes soon to play a Northern Captain pursued by a Southerner played by his Irish compatriot Liam Neeson in Seraphim Falls.
« Reply by IcyCalm on Sept 5, 2005»
A Northern Captain? I can see that.
It's still early: they can write into the script PB running into James Read's character, when he starred in "North and South." To be fair, Liam can enlist help from Patrick Swayze, who I think played Orry Main? Mane? Am I right?
Another thought: What rank did Rory Manion hold in the Union army? What if PB, in "Seraphim Falls" runs into Rory? (Stop it, Icy, stop it right there. This isn't Star Trek.)
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 2:41:16 GMT -5
Lauryn wrote on Sept 5, 2005, 11:28pm »
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 2:42:51 GMT -5
Lauryn wrote on Sept 5, 2005, 11:55pm
Since you mention Patrick Swayze, I remember that he played alongside Neeson in a truly atrocious revenge B-movie called "Next of Kin." He had a caricature of a role as Swayze's hillbilly brother, a Kentuckian mountain man, pure throwback, ornery cuss, etc. Didn't sound too far off to me accentwise but the Belfast twang he has naturally is not as removed as you'd think from the Appalachians. He could sport something similar in "Seraphim Falls" if he's from the right part of the south, Tennessee, or thereabouts. Funny to think he went on to play such a sophisticate in Schindler's List just a few years later, but that's acting, dear boy, LOL!
It would be a hoot if James Read showed up. Don't count on it though, because lately JR seems to have carved out a career playing Thurston Howell style country club lushes (Legally Blonde) and prep school headmasters. I kid you not, I saw him play the latter in an episode of "Crossing Jordan" complete with bowtie and tweeds. Who'd have thought it? Certainly not Mr. Steele...
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 2:43:22 GMT -5
Ace wrote:You know, I've never seen that Neeson/Swayze movie and just might have to give it a miss. James Read also plays the father of the Charmed sister, or did the last I caught an episode a few years ago. But yes he's been doing stuffy upper crust quite a bit. If I recall correctly, PB recounted how he hurt his back during his 40 minutes Town Hall Q&A/Interview at the Fleadh in Ireland back in summer of 2003. I think I have that audio interview still if anyone wants it.
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 2:43:44 GMT -5
It's a veritable cast of Western stalwart character types! I hope the luminous sexy Madam is for Gideon. And I wonder if they're all out to kill him? Tsk Tsk. MEW: UPCOMING AUDITIONS (New Mexico) - Send pictures & resume ASAP to: Details Are only Available By Subscription.. Title: SERAPHIM FALLS. CAST, Pierce Brosnan, Liam Neeson; PROD, Bruce Davey, David Flynn; DIR, David Von Ancken; SCR, David Von Ancken, Abby Everett Jaques. Shoot Dates: October 17, 2005 (in New Mexico). Breakdown-- Hayes: 30s, Caucasian or African-American. Wiry, 1800s face, possibly shaved head. Ruthless. Arrogant. Scary. He is a mercenary whose focus is on killing Gideon and getting his next gig. He is very comfortable with a knife and a gun. He has killed many a man for profit and likely skipped the War because there was nothing to gain for his purse. He would kill Carver if he thought it would add to his pay or if Carver crossed him. But most importantly, he would kill him if he thought he could. He knows a killer when he sees one, and he can sense that if he tried anything, Carver would kill him in a heartbeat; The Kid: Maybe 18 but babyfaced, Caucasian. Scrawny and scrappy. Alternately cocky and scared. He seems very young, but has somehow survived on the frontier. Fast, fast hands with a .44. Doesn't take to others; Parsons: 50s-60s, but extremely agile, Caucasian. Experienced, capable, yet calculating, quiet and watchful. Good with a long rifle. Also served in the Civil War on the Union side. Never talks of his past, but you get the feeling he's trying to make some money and get back to his life; Pope: 25-30, Caucasian. Pudgy, not intimidating looking. Out of his depth. Hesitant, talkative, willing to take orders, and easily distractable; Charlotte: 18 to play 16, Caucasian. Strong, able. The pretty has been replaced by the skinny years ago, yet something still remains, but she has no idea she's attractive. She is a frontier girl who is the pillar of the family now, as her mother is long gone. Able to sew and shoot a 12 gauge. Real dirty; Nathaniel: 9-13, Caucasian. Cute, smart, curious, mischievous. Mother has been gone for several years and he looks to his sister now as both mother and sibling; Henry: 35-40, though from the look of him, you'd never know if he was 35 or 55, Caucasian. Father of Charlotte & Nathaniel. He has lived a hard, frontier life. Smart, wary, salt of the earth; Virgil/Big Brother: 20-25, Caucasian. A take-charge kind of guy whose not totally on top of things. In a little over his head; Evan/Little Brother: 17-21, Caucasian. Gangly, not much of a beard, maybe acned or pockmarked. Hotheaded, dumb, mouthy. Hiding his panic; Cousin Bill: Maybe 23, Caucasian. Quiet, cagey, the voice of reason; Foreman: 35-50, Caucasian. Tough, greedy, amoral. This guy is a brute. Physically sturdy, broadshouldered with thick working hands and a weather beaten face; Madame: Maybe in her 30s, though it's impossible to say for sure, Caucasian. Luminous. Sexy. A siren. Alabaster skin, a little unreal; Charon: Easily 60s, yet spry, male. Not necessarily Native-American, but needs to have the craggy face that has spent a lifetime in the wind and sun of the plains. Sing-song voice. (Posted: August 30, 2005)
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Post by Ace on Jun 28, 2006 2:44:18 GMT -5
Sparkling Blue wrote:
I believe in his campaign speech Caleb Staunton refers to him as "Major Manion".
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