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Post by Barbara on Nov 28, 2005 1:33:52 GMT -5
There's a scene in an early RS episode (it may even be Season One, I am not sure), where Remington is housing someone they are trying to help, and the guy has taken a shower and he and Remy are discussing matters.
The man begins to get self righteous and Mr. Steele has to remind him, very strongly, that the gentleman is only wearing a towel.
Does anyone recall what episode this is? I promise, I will explain why I am looking for this, in a further post.
Love...B
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Post by lotsofluck on Nov 28, 2005 2:24:35 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that is a scene in "Signed, Steeled and Delivered." The character takes a shower in Laura's house to wash the hair dye out of his hair then dresses in clothes that apparently were left behind by Wilson Jeffries. When Laura returns home Steele lets her know that he is quite disturbed that she lived with a man.
In "Steele Waters Run Deep" Laura walks into Steele's bathroom while their client, Emery Arnoch is showering, so she can question him about the procedures followed by company executives at board meetings.
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Post by Ace on Nov 28, 2005 11:05:16 GMT -5
That's Signeed Steeled and Delivered, and Sheldon isn't getting self righteous, he's getting too "excited" with praising an increasingly uncomfortable Mr Steele. Hence "Relax Sheldon. Remember, you're only wearing a towel."  |
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Post by Lauryn on Nov 28, 2005 19:19:03 GMT -5
Speaking of various states of undress, I've always raised an eyebrow at the scene in "Dreams of Steele" when Steele walks out in full view of Laura while zipping up his pants. Maybe it's just PB's well-known exhibitionism, or does it imply a certain level of intimacy between them? The scene where Laura barges in on Emory Arnoch while he's in the shower seems like an analogue of the scene where Steele strips off for Mildred in an Acapulco mens' room; as long as there's no sexual component, Steele and Laura aren't at all bothered. I've always loved that shower scene in "Steele Waters," Laura so single-mindedly focused on the case you get the feeling that if the situation demanded it she could whip out a notebook full of questions at a nudist colony, LOL!
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Post by Ace on Nov 28, 2005 19:39:17 GMT -5
Considering the fact that Steele non chalantly takes his pants off in front of Mildred in Steele Away With Me and walks around in a towel in front of everyone in My Fair Steele I don't put much hidden meaning into his zipping his pants in front of Laura. Alas. Tis pity that seemingly all of Mr Steele's non chalant exhibitionism is lost on the myopic Laura. Mildred shows far more reaction.  Ace |
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Post by Lauryn on Nov 28, 2005 22:30:23 GMT -5
Considering the fact that Steele non chalantly takes his pants off in front of Mildred in Steele Away With Me and walks around in a towel in front of everyone in My Fair Steele I don't put much hidden meaning into his zipping his pants in front of Laura. Alas. Tis pity that seemingly all of Mr Steele's non chalant exhibitionism is lost on the myopic Laura. Mildred shows far more reaction. Ace Au contraire, remember how flustered we found the calm and collected Miss Holt after that first kiss on the dock? (That's alright, Mr. Marnock!) Makes me think that at other tricky moments she was just putting up a good front. I think it's time the RS DVD producers brought out the deleted scenes. REMINGTON exits the room. He's clad only in a towel. LAURA, a bit flushed, is pretending to balance her checkbook. MILDRED: [she has this part down to a science] The coast is clear, Miss Holt. LAURA: [with relief] He's gone. MILDRED: Affirmative. LAURA hops up and runs to the kitchen as if moving across hot coals. She opens the refrigerator door and sticks her head in. [fanning herself] Ah, that's better! MILDRED: Talk about the nick of time! I think your mood ring was on fire. |
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Post by Ace on Nov 28, 2005 23:01:29 GMT -5
Considering the fact that Steele non chalantly takes his pants off in front of Mildred in Steele Away With Me and walks around in a towel in front of everyone in My Fair Steele I don't put much hidden meaning into his zipping his pants in front of Laura. Alas. Tis pity that seemingly all of Mr Steele's non chalant exhibitionism is lost on the myopic Laura. Mildred shows far more reaction. Ace Au contraire, remember how flustered we found the calm and collected Miss Holt after that first kiss on the dock? (That's alright, Mr. Marnock!) But he was fully clothed! If he'd done that naked she probably wouldn't have blinked an eye.  *snort* Ace |
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Post by Lauryn on Nov 28, 2005 23:10:59 GMT -5
LOL!!!!!!
If Freud were around she'd drive him to drink!
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Post by Barbara on Nov 29, 2005 2:52:10 GMT -5
Thank you everyone for the HIGHLY entertaining reading. It put a big smile on my face. Or was it Pierce? Or was it a part of Pierce? Never mind...
Anyway, I was helping my brother develop a skit for his Queen (the band) mailing list, in responce to someone wondering if Brian May personally knew about a problem with the re-release of "A Night at the Opera."
My brother and I decided that Mr. May's butler would enter the bedroom in the middle of the night, and inform said Mr. May of these events. Brian, being the hero that he is, would immediately spring out of bed, and call for his jet, the Red Special I, to be prepared for take off, so he can travel around the world.
The butler would reply, "Very good sir, but would you mind covering up. We are all gentlemen here."
My brother thought I stole that from a Bond movie, I told him same actor, wrong role. I knew it was Sheldon, I knew it was RS I just couldn't remember the episode title.
Grazi gang.
Love...B
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Post by SaltheGal on Nov 29, 2005 13:37:09 GMT -5
Did someone mention Queen ;D |
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Post by Barbara on Nov 30, 2005 1:28:16 GMT -5
First:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!
Second, yes, I mentioned Queen and if you bought the 30th anniversary reissue of "A Night at the Opera," Mr. May may be coming to rescue you from a bad packaging mistake. ;-)
Third, do you belong to the QMS Yahoo newsgroup. That's the one my brother belongs to, and that's where he put the scenario up.
Love...B
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Post by Lauryn on Nov 30, 2005 3:24:53 GMT -5
In light of our prior discussions in this thread about Laura's immunity to Mr. Steele, well, maybe we should say it with music...
[to the tune of "I Cain't Say No" from Oklahoma (Rodgers and Hammerstein are both dead now, so I'm safe, LOL!)
I CAN'T GET LAID
It’s not so much a question of not knowing what to do
I’ve left women devastated by my charms
You’ve read the gossip columns
I assure you, they are true
Females end up horizontal in my arms
But every rule has an exception, I’ll admit
My sex life is now turning into sh*t.
I’m just a guy who can’t get laid.
I’m in a terrible fix.
Just when I think I’ve got it made
Laura will always say nix.
Business before pleasure is her quirk
A moonlit beach in Maui makes her brood
She’d stay buried in her paperwork
If I strolled past her cabana in the nude
I’m just a guy who can’t get laid
What can I do to entice?
Psychiatrists who want to aid
Line up to give me advice
After office hours I nurse the hope
That we might just get sometime to ourselves
How was I to know she’d pick tonight
To rush home to the loft to line her shelves?
I’m just a guy who can’t get laid
These are the cards I’ve been dealt
I want the woman to melt
Unlock her chastity belt
I can’t get laid!
I left out the middle eight section and a verse, I think, but inspiration is finite. If you want to fill it in, be my guest.
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Post by SaltheGal on Nov 30, 2005 11:20:17 GMT -5
First: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU! Thank you ;D Second, yes, I mentioned Queen and if you bought the 30th anniversary reissue of "A Night at the Opera," Mr. May may be coming to rescue you from a bad packaging mistake. ;-) No I haven't brought the 30th anniversary reissue but it's on my xmas list Third, do you belong to the QMS Yahoo newsgroup. That's the one my brother belongs to, and that's where he put the scenario up. No I must join  |
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Post by Ace on Nov 30, 2005 12:20:15 GMT -5
In light of our prior discussions in this thread about Laura's immunity to Mr. Steele, well, maybe we should say it with music... [to the tune of "I Cain't Say No" from Oklahoma (Rodgers and Hammerstein are both dead now, so I'm safe, LOL!) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Have you listened to the commentaries on Season 2 yet? In Steele Eligible the Director asks Gleason if Steele, the poor guy, ever had sex at all with anyone during the series. Gleason responded he had his flirtations with other women but no he did not because if he did then the audience would hate him (man is he wrong!) because they were playing it like one of those romantic comedy 1940s films with that 1940s morality. Poor Mr Steele - stuck in romantic comedies of the Hayes Code for four and a half years!  Ace |
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Post by Ace on Nov 30, 2005 12:21:23 GMT -5
Happy Birthday SaltheGal!  Ace
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Post by Yuliya on Nov 30, 2005 12:30:16 GMT -5
Gleason responded he had his flirtations with other women but no he did not because if he did then the audience would hate him (man is he wrong!) because they were playing it like one of those romantic comedy 1940s films with that 1940s morality. Poor Mr Steele - stuck in romantic comedies of the Hayes Code for four and a half years! Mr. Gleeson reminds me of Judith/MeganO who claimed if we didn't see Mr. Steele to have sex, it didn't happen. I suppose he bestowed all those brass name plates to the staggering array of ladies just to congratulate them on theie virtues. Lauryn, hilarious! ;D |
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Post by Ace on Nov 30, 2005 12:41:55 GMT -5
Gleason responded he had his flirtations with other women but no he did not because if he did then the audience would hate him (man is he wrong!) because they were playing it like one of those romantic comedy 1940s films with that 1940s morality. Poor Mr Steele - stuck in romantic comedies of the Hayes Code for four and a half years! Mr. Gleeson reminds me of Judith/MeganO who claimed if we didn't see Mr. Steele to have sex, it didn't happen. I suppose he bestowed all those brass name plates to the staggering array of ladies just to congratulate them on theie virtues. Lauryn, hilarious! ;D Well Mr Gleason does have an in, he created and wrote him. But in the case it looks like he had first episode amnesia which might be undertsandable since it stopped being the first episode when the network made them backtrack. Hopefully Mr Gleason also forgot or was looking away from his typewriter during the period after the Cannes unilateral decree (but then wasn't it always unilateral?) , and Mr Steele was able to break his long draught. Ace |
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Post by SaltheGal on Nov 30, 2005 13:47:34 GMT -5
Happy Birthday SaltheGal! Ace Thanks Ace ;D |
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Post by Lauryn on Nov 30, 2005 23:24:19 GMT -5
I can only buy that line of reasoning to a point. Homages and stylistic valentines are one thing, but I can't warm to idea of making museum pieces out of characters that are supposed to be real. The whole notion collapses under the weight of inconsistency anyway, because, outside of the sexual arena and Steele's fondness for classic Hollywood both LH and RS are allowed to have fairly modern sensibilities. Laura, in particular, prides herself on them. (And really, a fetish for old movies isn't wholly antique. The 80's are the age of the VCR!) Can't say I'm surprised. After all, Michael Gleason wrote London in the wrong century in Steele Searching (if that London ever existed) so putting characters in the wayback machine and watching them suffer is one of his trademarks, LOL!
Honestly, what breaks the deal is that the sex embargo lasts for four years going on five. (For year one it fits; that one's all about the tease, and it works.) I wonder, though, if Gleason will still be flogging that "blame it on the 40's" line by the fourth season commentary, if we get that far. Even in the Hayes code era they only had to keep the couple apart for less than two hours of screentime and it wasn't taboo to suggest an impending consummation, walls of Jericho coming down and all that. Hmm. I remember reading a bit of trivia about "It Happened One NIght" -- mainly that the original reason they put up that blanket between the beds is that Claudette Colbert didn't want to undress in full view on the set. I can't speak for Stephanie, but we'd never have that problem with PB.
Speaking of bygone days I decided to read The Thin Man, the book which gave us the movie series. I'm only a few chapters in, but it's as breezy and snap-brimmed as you might expect. Just like in the films, it's always time for cocktails. Barely a paragraph goes by without someone tippling. (I'm not exaggerating!) The book came out just prior to the repeal of Prohibition and it's set then, too, which explains a lot. When you're denied a pleasure all you can do is obsess about your next chance at it: when, where, how, and why. Rather like sex is to Mr. Steele, not that he ever gets a taste.
Nick and Nora proved that a couple could be a real couple (married even) and still be interesting. What's Michael Gleason so scared of, anyway? Pity RS never really explored the married Steeles. So much territory to roam around in, what marriage made harder, what it made easier, just for starters.
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Post by Ace on Nov 30, 2005 23:54:30 GMT -5
Yes it's much much easier to sustrain Hayes Code sensibilities for 2 hours -- than 91 hours over 4 1/2 years. Steele and Laura were very modern characters, to ascribe to them idealized 1940's sensibilities is a hard fit.
Their being apart made sense the first year and even through part of the 2nd but by the third it was unbelievable and that's why they had to come up with the Cannes "agreement" to keep them apart.
At that point Laura makes Steele a free agent and to contend he wouldn't be able to sleep with or have another relationship with another woman because it would make the audience hate him is beyond misguided. Laura made her lack of bed and it was for her to metaphorically lie in it. If they'd actually done more with that beyond mild allusions to jealousy (that Gleason tells us were unwarranted) it might have propelled them into making some serious decisions about their relationship and stop going around in circles.
I didn't want to see them married early on -- especially when they didn't have a full relationship yet anyway. They weren't ready for it, there wasn't any building toward it. There wasn't enough trust and equality yet between them to have marriage be anything other than a gimmick which is why them "having" to get married is the only way a marriage actually would make sense. To see how they dealt with this marriage after would have been interesting. Too bad we didn't get that in the aborted 5th season where the obstacles overcome were those from the outside more than inside, which is what makes it very unfullfilling.
Ace
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