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Post by remingtonstelee on Aug 19, 2006 12:43:50 GMT -5
I have to go with Season 2; it was clever, sexy, and even had some comedy bits:) I was shocked and dismayed at the Season 3 opening (even the music was ruined IMO!) and am further saddened it continues on into Season 4 . Can't wait to see if S5 has an opening "montage". No spoilers PLEASE!!! As far as closing credits I liked the first 3 seasons music but always felt a show with so much going on "upstairs" settled for something slightly ordinary (calling card). I like the S4 closing theme but prefer the first 3 seasons I guess.
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Post by remingtonstelee on Aug 20, 2006 9:25:15 GMT -5
Why do you suppose there are so few responses here? Does anyone know of a more active RS board? I mean to have topics viewed 2,000 times and have 70 responses is a bit s--l--o--w------
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Post by Ace on Aug 20, 2006 10:45:30 GMT -5
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Post by Yuliya on Aug 20, 2006 12:18:41 GMT -5
Though they can also be a bit slow, especially on a weekend at the end of a summer. Or they can be busy with their families and other things. Or they can have nothing to say. Or they can be uninterested in a partricular subject. I wouldn't say other boards are more lively than this one on the adervage, and it's certainly not unheard of for a particular post to go unanswered. You're welcome to look for a board that suits you, of course.
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Post by remingtonstelee on Aug 20, 2006 22:40:39 GMT -5
Strange that no one here answered my original topic question:) Sorry I'm just used to more lively boards on various topics, or worst case have no one read it at all, it just strikes me as odd to have so many people interested enough to click on a subject and yet never answer many of them.
Case in point: So what do you think of Season 4? remingtonstelee 9 replies 146 read Season 2 Dvds remingtonstelee 5 replies 105 read
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Post by Ace on Aug 20, 2006 23:42:43 GMT -5
Well if just a handful of people keep clicking on a topic to see if anything has been added then the views pile up. As Yuliya said, it's the weekend when things are slower, it's the summer when things are also slower. there are also quite a few lurkers on this board who never or rarely post. Or maybe some just don't have an opinion on the credits.
As for the subject -- I've liked different things from each of them.
I like the noirish music and tone of the first season but after you've heard Laura's monologue 865 times it's really nice to hear something else. I like the idea of them being in a theater for the second season and it's nice to get a new monatge and I also really like Mancini's Remington's theme. My favorite opening graphic though might be the moving fingerprint because I find it quite clever -- both modern and noirish.
As for the end credits, the card in the dish rather classy and a bit old fashioned which fits Steele. RS had the best ending MTM Kitty logo-- the Sherlock Holmes kitty with the pipe.
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Post by remingtonstelee on Aug 21, 2006 2:23:04 GMT -5
I just loved Rems reactions in the S2 opening to what was going on in the scene:) PRICELESS. And while I can see the fingerprint S3 opening interesting to a degree I found the music to be total 80's trash-sounding therefore ruining it completely:( All opinion though.
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Post by Yuliya on Aug 21, 2006 9:43:32 GMT -5
Frankly, after I saw the credits a couple of dozen times, I stopped paying such close attention to them. I think I prefer Season 1 opening credits, actually. Closing credits with the kitten are nice, but they're not specific to RS - all MTM mystery shows had the same credits, I think.
As for the music - I can't tell. I know it's different, but I dont' remember how different now. The gunshot was very distracting, so I think I prefer Season 1 here, too.
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Post by Lauryn on Aug 21, 2006 13:11:50 GMT -5
I hope that the fans here won't want to tie me to a stake and bring along a box of matches, but I've never really liked the main RS theme. In its defense, it may be too slight a tune, IMO, to stand up to the heavy footed 80's orchestrations of any of its season openers. For me it works better scaled down more subtly into the score of an episode. There were times it was very artfully blended, for example, when Steele and Laura's separate dramas play out in the final minutes of Steele of Approval. The wistful re-working of Laura's theme as she's sitting on the bed is even better.
Though we've all memorized Laura's voice-over by now, I'd have to say that her theme tune is still evocative, and the arrangement easier on my ear. It fit so hand-in-glove with the show's atmos in season one that I'd have to give it the highest marks. Not that the tune can't extend to all seasons. I have no problem with the end credits.
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Post by Yuliya on Aug 21, 2006 19:00:14 GMT -5
Tie to the stake? On this board? Only in good company! Actually, the main reason I prefer Season 1 opening credits is because the arrangement is lighter. Laura's voiceover has nothing to do with it.
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Post by peppler on Aug 21, 2006 22:08:09 GMT -5
I'm with Ace. I too like different things from each of them. I just wish they would have stuck to one like ER has.
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Post by Myrtle Groggins on Aug 24, 2006 22:43:14 GMT -5
I must confess that when I originally read this post, I didn't respond. Why? I had to do something else and didn't come back to the computer for a couple of days. So there could be many reasons why people didn't respond at first. Sorry about that. Another reason could be that maybe people wanted to check out all those openings again just to refresh their memories. There is something I like about each season's opening, I must say. Loved Laura's opening dialogue but after hearing it often, it's no longer necessary and I can fully understand why they did something different for Season Two. I loved Season Two's movie theatre idea, loved the scenes, and the music, but after awhile, that gets old, too. I do like the montages of Seasons Three and Four, although the changes in the music are a bit grating on the nerves. I do wish they had stayed with one version of the theme music. The finger print, the smoking gun, and the gun shot are clever. I think I prefer the faster music than the slower, dragging version. I don't know. I do know that I prefer my TV shows to continually have the same theme music, that way when I hear it, I know "my show" is coming on. Also, there is something very nostalgic about theme songs that remain almost unchanged throughout the run of the show. Who could forget the theme songs for TV shows like Bonanza, M*A*S*H, Perry Maosn, The Beverly Hillbillies, I Love Lucy, Green Acres, Dragnet, Welcome Back Kotter, The Twilight Zone, Dallas? You hear the music and you're brought back to a different decade immediately. Even if you didn't like the shows, you know the music. As for the closing credits and theme song, I absolutely love it. I love the calling card on the tray (a nod to old-fashioned, elegant traditions) and the music is lovely. Also, love the MTM kitty. I'm glad the closing theme was the one constant throughout the show (don't remember what they did in Season Five and haven't watched those eps yet on dvd).
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Post by Myrtle Groggins on Aug 24, 2006 22:52:39 GMT -5
Another reason for not too many responses could be that we've discussed this previously during the PAX runs of RS and we sometimes don't always respond to discussions we've had ad nauseum previously. Shame on us. Or sometimes we think we've already responded. Some of us were heavy posters on the PAX forum and then migrated over to Kelly's forum. Both of those boards went down or for some other reason, this board was started for us, even if it is actually a Pierce board. Heres' another forum, although it doesn't appear very active: www.tv.com/remington-steele/show/806/forums.htmlAnd if you converse in German: www.remington-steele.de/forum/
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Post by sparklingblue on Aug 27, 2006 6:54:35 GMT -5
My favourite is the Season 2 opening, followed closely by the one from Season 1. The later opening is nice also, but I don't like the music as much.
And for the record, my reason for not always posting is that I often arrive when a thread has already been going on for a while and I adding my views would repeat some of what has already been said. I don't think it's always necessary or interesting to have a post by me saying I agree with this and that. Come to think of it, I didn't say anything new in this post either. But at least I have given an answer to the non-RS question.
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Post by remingtonstelee on Aug 27, 2006 7:09:16 GMT -5
^yes you did:) You said you preffered the Season 2 opening which agrees with me which is something no one else did:) Most people went with the "I like all of them" answer which to me is a non answer. Pick a side, people.
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Post by sparklingblue on Aug 27, 2006 7:16:42 GMT -5
LOL! People always like when others agree with them. What is good about the S2 opening is that they are in this theatre and watching a montage from the series and there are actually reactions from them. I always thought that's a nice idea, since Steele got Laura interested in movies, but you never really see them going to the movies together (unless you count looking for shelter in a questionable establishment). I think it ties in nicely. And as a fangirl I just love the moment when Pierce walks in in his tuxedo.
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Post by Myrtle Groggins on Aug 27, 2006 22:13:18 GMT -5
^yes you did:) You said you preffered the Season 2 opening which agrees with me which is something no one else did:) Most people went with the "I like all of them" answer which to me is a non answer. Pick a side, people. BUT, I DO like all the openings! So it's not a non-answer. I love all of them for different reasons. Yes, the Season Two opening has great music and love the movie theatre idea, and love their reactions to each scene, too. Nobody can beat Pierce in a tux. I love the first one opening, and the second opening of the first season, too. I love how Laura tells her story about making up the mystery man in the first episode. Then in the second episode, she tells how the mystery magically appeared. Love that. Seasons Three and Four (I won't mention Five, as requested) are good too. I especially love the animation on the fingerprint with the gunshot, the smoking gun, and of course, the lips from the fourth season. The music is the odd thing out for me for the fourth season, it drags. I prefer it lively. I do love the montages in both of those seasons. There, I've repeated my answer and tried to stress why I love ALL of them. I'm not trying to be ornary, I'm just stating how I believe all season opening are fun and so very part of the show that I love so much. Sorry that I can't pick one. But if I must, I'd say the one I hated most was the opening for the first episode of the Fifth Season, but that's off limits.
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Post by Ace on Sept 4, 2006 2:09:20 GMT -5
OK, it's the first time I've listened to the opening 4th Season music in ages -- it's horrible. Whoever did that new "orchestration" should be banned from ever touching music in any form again.
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Post by Lauryn on Sept 4, 2006 18:38:57 GMT -5
OK, it's the first time I've listened to the opening 4th Season music in ages -- it's horrible. Whoever did that new "orchestration" should be banned from ever touching music in any form again. The freaky thing is that the tin-eared (and tin sounding) "amphetamine speedway" version of the fourth season theme (with more synth R2D2 bleeps and blurps thrown in just to annoy us) changes back to something more like the older arrangement, with the more moderate tempo and less blurps) by the time you get to "Forged Steele." That's as far as I checked, anyway. Maybe the union got wind of it, LOL! I'd like to think a massive letter-writing campaign by outraged listeners did the trick, but I wasn't involved. First season excepted, I always tried to be out of the room when the theme music was on.
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Post by Myrtle Groggins on Sept 5, 2006 3:26:52 GMT -5
Yes, you are right. The 4th season theme did have a "change of heart" midstream, making it a shade more tolerable toward the end of the series.
Alas, I also wasn't in on a letter-writing campaign about the 4th season theme. I do remember cringing when I first heard it but always loved the montage and was glad they kept that part along with the fingerprint and gun.
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