Pierce Brosnan's Cancelled Fifth Bond...

[SeriousJacko]

What it would have been if Pierce Brosnan got to play five Bonds in total? Yeah, I would tell you that I never support Daniel Craig nor this "philosophically arty" chick flicks with guns as they are against everything I stand for. But, Brosnan's era? It was completely outstanding. Awesome actioners, with Tomorrow Never Dies being my favorite and very first movie to see in the series, I really think that Pierce made what James Bond would have been like in today's world. Control Rooms, Silos, Nuclear Missiles, Machine Guns, Commando Gears, total utter awesome spy actioner. But, what ruined the era was Neal Purvis & Robert Wade's involvement, and Barbara Broccoli's "arty" and strong feminism supporting concepts that destroyed the image of 007, I bet Cubby Broccoli would have been really mad if the he was alive. Why not bring Bruce Feirstein back who literally knows how to write and even direct (though he never had the chance) the movie? Well, as far as I'm concerned, he wrote and directed the cinematics portrayed in Pierce's very last Bond adventure (and Bond's own very last adventure), Everything or Nothing, the video game that was released in 2004 by Electronic Arts. Before the mediocre Bourne Identity was released, Hollywood movies were safe and sane, but since Matt Damon's awful interpretation of Jason Bourne the character was seen by the public, it applied to Bond series as well and converted the franchise into something laughable. Almost every Hollywood thriller imitates this, from Craig's Casino Royale to Angelina Jolie's Salt and beyond, this "rogue agent" thing has been repeating severely and very improperly. That's what made Babs Broccoli to phone Pierce and fire him rudely. I wonder how Michael G. Wilson is doing, mental problems? Anyway, in an alternate universe, for me, there would have been a fifth Brosnan movie that would have been really splendid. Written by Bruce Feirstein and directed by Roger Spottiswoode. This is just an amateur fan-made poster I've been working on. What do you think?
jackchristian.deviantart.com/art/Bond-21-Honour-Among-Spies-331057917
And this...
jackchristian.deviantart.com/art/James-Bond-Masquerade-Cover-Art-344215203

[eaz35173]

Really like your artwork!!

[SeriousJacko]

Thanks you. I'm also writing fan fictions that centers around Pierce Brosnan's Bond, brand new adventure, but probably the most stunning Bond adventure it would ever be.

[eaz35173]

Be sure to post the link on here when you are ready! If I'm not mistaken, I think there may already be a category on here for Bond fanfic. I know there is for RS fic.

[SeriousJacko]

Jun 18, 2013 17:32:48 GMT -5 eaz35173 said:

Be sure to post the link on here when you are ready! If I'm not mistaken, I think there may already be a category on here for Bond fanfic. I know there is for RS fic.

I will, I'll make a special thread for it. Thanks.

[rosafermu]

I recognize that Craig is a good actor, but in my User Input and pray apologize if annoying to some fan of the actor, is too static. Brosnan was always some touch of humor, and despite the years still remember him and miss him. Too bad proceeding to dismiss phone, I would have done the 5th Bond flawlessly. But that's part of the stories in the series.

[SeriousJacko]

Jun 19, 2013 13:41:35 GMT -5 rosafermu said:

I recognize that Craig is a good actor, but in my User Input and pray apologize if annoying to some fan of the actor, is too static. Brosnan was always some touch of humor, and despite the years still remember him and miss him. Too bad proceeding to dismiss phone, I would have done the 5th Bond flawlessly. But that's part of the stories in the series.

Well, as a grown up man myself who understands films, humour and escapism very well, Daniel Craig's flicks disgusted me to hell. I know, each of us are entitled to own's opinions, but I can't stand when someone bashes (though on other forums such as mi6community or commanderbond.net) Brosnan. He's the actor who introduced me to the Bond series. Brosnan is the best Bond since Sean Connery, I mean his skills, actions, performance, sense of humour, class-look, he's everything what Connery introduced with the cinematic Bond's arrival, unlike Daniel Craig who says "I can't do superhero stuff" and tries to appeal to mindless soap opera loving emotionally unstable people, which annoys me. That's what Barbara Broccoli loves and I literally blame her for ruining the franchise that her father has built, she's a shame on this legacy. Craig may be a good actor, but not for me, he's a soap opera stage actor, not a Bond actor.

[rosafermu]

Totally agree with you. Craig, and perhaps because the script demands it, is an actor cold and too tight muscles. So it is difficult to find a photograph original, different. All have the same position. Not so in other actors who always find some spontaneous, different and not just talk about Brosnan, which is my weakness. I hope to have an opportunity, in most cases, to exchange views with you as I do with other members of the forum. regards

[SeriousJacko]

Well, feel free to talk about it independently, rosafermu. I'd like to listen to your opinions about the current and the old Bond films, or the current Hollywood/thrillers and the classic ones.

[rosafermu]

Jun 22, 2013 4:19:16 GMT -5 rosafermu said:

With great pleasure I present my opinion, and I do not bother anyone. I emphasize that my point of view as a spectator, nothing more, since I'm not a film critic, and I do it.
In the Bond films, Connery liked the Goldfinger especially because it was the first of the series I saw. To reach Pierce, and was Goldeneye which surprised me more than the four that rolled. Among Connery and Brosnan, were great performers, but I liked comedies and spy on paper. Craig, I've only seen Quantum, and did not like. Sorry.
Regarding the ancient classics, I go back to very ancient times Witness for the Prosecution, The Third Man, Psycho, Diabolique, The Wages of Fear, etc.. There was no violence, but I kept sitting on the armchair with intrigue.
I think movies now, are too excessive special effects and computer. With few exceptions, of course. I think that European cinema is more creative than the American, but of course at a fraction of marketing budgets and little ..
Slightly is my opinion, and I think we would need a long time to express our opinions but there are many films that stayed in my memory over time and in this moment I remember only a few. I like most middle-aged actors, who have their career

[SeriousJacko]

Very well put, rosafermu. Daniel Craig movies are nothing more than waste of time. "Casino Royale" was a pointless movie based on Ian Fleming's worst novel ever written. They just grabbed the basis of the story and turned it into something that only appeals to manic depressives who think emotionally unstable is a good thing. Oh, and there was an idiot who compared it to Romeo & Juliet, and said Craig is the reason thee is a Bond fan. Rubbish. Craig stripped Bond off his manhood and made him a typical street punk or a low life scumbag, inspired from Matt Damon's trash-based Bourne Trilogy movies. There are some things out there you can't get your eyes off it. They love making mistakes and keep doing it. In short, they don't have enough brain to understand what a decent film is. James Bond? Shakespearean Dilemma? They are both very different things that cannot be compared into each other at the slightest. Bond is supposed to be filled with bunch of action sequences, science-fiction fantasies and a very heroic manly character saving the world. But, what do we get with Craig? I described him above. Street Punk. Manchild. "Quantum of Solace" was an awful direct sequel to "Casino Royale", and that film never made sense at all, just quick-mash up scenes done filming only using iPhones. Seriously? And there was no sensible script out there. None of the dialogues in that movie made sense. And finally, this "mighty" (oh God, no) "Skyfall"... I haven't seen anything so pointless than this one. Imagine four incomplete short stories combined into one and being adapted into a film, then you get Skyfall. It never made sense. What Craig was after? What the villain (villain? really? I've seen clowns that are more sinister than him) was after? It puts everything off what made Bond actually Bond in the Classic Movies, the first 20 movies before Craig's arrival. Please don't bother watching it. It's just Jason Bourne/Dark Knight rip-offs without making sense. And that's about it.

[rosafermu]

I have seen very last Skyfall, and the conclusion is the same "do not care". Even the interpretation of Bardem, I found bad. And there was the image with blond hair and calling Silva. No, I did not finish watching it. I did the same in Quantum: the first scenes were meaningless. Passed fast and I drove her crazy ... I think Broccoli seeking profits and is destroying the magnificent product that was the Bond brand. I reaffirm Connery and Pierce: my favorites. Cheers ..

[SeriousJacko]

You're absolutely right. I agree with you on everything you said. Now, I know this would never have happened if they kept Brosnan in the role, he's the last Bond and the franchise is done. Who needs pointless run and gun scenes when you can have an over the top threat coming across the world through a lord of war? Who needs a simple protagonist when you can have a hero? Craig is the loser who failed to accomplish his assignment in all the three films he made while Pierce, Sean, Roger and Timothy (save it for George Lazenby) saved the world in every single movie they made. See what's the difference? It's sad, but it's true. It can't be brought back again, the franchise is well-destroyed.

[Barbara]

My distaste for the way Pierce Brosnan was treated was part of the reason I stopped being a staff member at Commanderbond.net It took me a looooooooooooooooong time before I would watch Daniel Craig's movies. I have to admit though, he's not bad at it. CASINO ROYALE is a good film, though I think Pierce would have done it very differently, and I wanted to see what him and Tarantino would have done with it. Quantum of Solace however, was a long epilogue to CR that should not have happened.

I look forward to reading your fan fic Jacko!

[rosafermu]

We all agree: Brosnan has been one of the best Bond saga. All the blame can not oust the Craig, merely fulfill what the script commands, but has disappointed most fans. I think Cubby had followed at least one more with Pierce. I think that with the pace set by the producers, the series did not last much longer.
November What do you think man? I think it will be a good production. Greetings everyone

[SeriousJacko]

Well, no disrespect at all as we're all entitled to own's opinions, but "Casino Royale" may sound good because it was directed by Martin Campbell, not because the script was good nor the acting was any better. The whole new vision of this new direction is quite irritating, emo characters, pointless stories, meaningless plots, a typical street gang "yobbo" flick... Sorry... My mistake... Chick Flicks with Guns, that's the best I could describe the Craig/Bourne movies. Bond is meant to be suave, humorous, skillful, patriotic, heroic and alpha male. Craig is quite the opposite of what Bond should be. Twilight is the more slow paced version of this. And don't get me started on Skyfall. LOL! Roza pointed this out, Bond franchise is totally done. Barbara Broccoli changed the image of the series strongfully, she has done enough damage to it so well that there's no way its coolness might revive. When Fleming saw Terrence Young's "Dr No", he realized his mistake and gave Cubby and Harry Saltzman the greenlight to work on the series the way they want, to create the ultimate hero, the indomitable Mr Bond. That's what they've done from 1962 to 2004. Well, if you ask me, "Tomorrow Never Dies" is the last Bond movie and "Everything or Nothing" (video game, 2004) is the very last Bond adventure. Bond died with Brosnan's departure. Craig is nothing more than a clown trying to be a failure gun for hire, hitman at best. Not even an assassin, let alone a spy. Well, that's what the modern audience loves, manic depressive protagonists, which of course is pathetic. There's nothing we can do about it but sit back and watch them destroying themselves, their time will come.

And thanks for the compliment, Barbara. I sure try not to disappoint you with my fan fiction. Thanks again.